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<blockquote data-quote="Joshua Randall" data-source="post: 1733448" data-attributes="member: 7737"><p>Come on, Paul. You knew that when I said "every" d20 publisher, I was using hyperbole. Suffice it to say that there are dozens? scores? of supported publishers, yet support for the D&D core rules / RSRD is still spotty. PCGen seems willing to bend over backwards to accommodate the bizarre mutations of the d20 rules that third-party publishers create, but not willing to set up a rigorous testing cycle for RSRD functions.</p><p> </p><p>As for which bugs are still prevelent -- I admitted earlier in this thread that I no longer use PCGen (have switched to DM Genie), so I no longer keep up on the status of all the bugs. But some of the persistent bugs I can think of right now are:</p><p> </p><p>* dwarven waraxe - is it martial? exotic? one-handed? two-handed? Pick your favorite interpretation and implement it. Make an exception for dwarves. Furthermore, when you take Weapon Focus with the waraxe, you should actually get a +1 attack bonus.</p><p>* weapon focus in general - sometimes doesn't apply the +1 attack bonus.</p><p>* auto-generated masterwork and magic items - were still completely screwed, last I checked.</p><p>* items in general - lots of silly errors in the item list, like containers not tagged as such (so you can't put anything in them) or incorrect weights or prices.</p><p>* un/holy or anarchic/axiomatic weapons - incorrectly imposing negative levels even on evil/good or chaotic/lawful wielders.</p><p>* The entire way the end-user can create custom entries, using the built-in PCGen tools, is completely screwed. The tool will mangle the .lst files (e.g. for character classes) so that they're unworkable. You then have to go in an manually edit them, which requires keeping track of the ever-changing .lst syntax and tags.</p><p> </p><p>The fact of the matter is that I cannot trust PCGen accurately to determine relatively simple game functions like attack bonuses or weapon damage. And that makes the tool worthless to me -- if I have to check PCGen's math, I may as well just use pencil and paper to begin with.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Joshua Randall, post: 1733448, member: 7737"] Come on, Paul. You knew that when I said "every" d20 publisher, I was using hyperbole. Suffice it to say that there are dozens? scores? of supported publishers, yet support for the D&D core rules / RSRD is still spotty. PCGen seems willing to bend over backwards to accommodate the bizarre mutations of the d20 rules that third-party publishers create, but not willing to set up a rigorous testing cycle for RSRD functions. As for which bugs are still prevelent -- I admitted earlier in this thread that I no longer use PCGen (have switched to DM Genie), so I no longer keep up on the status of all the bugs. But some of the persistent bugs I can think of right now are: * dwarven waraxe - is it martial? exotic? one-handed? two-handed? Pick your favorite interpretation and implement it. Make an exception for dwarves. Furthermore, when you take Weapon Focus with the waraxe, you should actually get a +1 attack bonus. * weapon focus in general - sometimes doesn't apply the +1 attack bonus. * auto-generated masterwork and magic items - were still completely screwed, last I checked. * items in general - lots of silly errors in the item list, like containers not tagged as such (so you can't put anything in them) or incorrect weights or prices. * un/holy or anarchic/axiomatic weapons - incorrectly imposing negative levels even on evil/good or chaotic/lawful wielders. * The entire way the end-user can create custom entries, using the built-in PCGen tools, is completely screwed. The tool will mangle the .lst files (e.g. for character classes) so that they're unworkable. You then have to go in an manually edit them, which requires keeping track of the ever-changing .lst syntax and tags. The fact of the matter is that I cannot trust PCGen accurately to determine relatively simple game functions like attack bonuses or weapon damage. And that makes the tool worthless to me -- if I have to check PCGen's math, I may as well just use pencil and paper to begin with. [/QUOTE]
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