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<blockquote data-quote="Ashrym" data-source="post: 9596425" data-attributes="member: 6750235">For starting equipment the fighter is offered chainmail with no shield, studded leather with no shield, or 155gp to buy armor which is going to likely be chain mail and shield based on the premise.&nbsp; +1 AC for fighting style and still does d8+3 damage with a longsword plus sap via weapon mastery.&nbsp; Plus Second Wind.Barbarians can rage for the damage reduction and apply weapon mastery but cannot replenish healing.Clerics can have nearly the same AC but lack weapon mastery effects and need to invest in STR i bit while relying on giving up other spells for healing to increase their survivability.Paladins match up with the fighters pretty well.&nbsp; They can wear the same armor and take the same weapon mastery but lack a point of AC from the fighting style at 1st level.&nbsp; They also invest in CHA so typically have slightly less CON unless they give up a point on the attack stat.&nbsp; 2 Cure Wounds (at 16 CHA) is 24hp + 5hp from LoH where 2 second winds would be 13 hp of healing plus 2 more assuming 2 short rests becomes 26 hp and better with 3 short rests or more.&nbsp; Assuming the paladin uses those spell slots for healing instead of something else.I voted fighter.The warlock would have a 15 AC maybe and can use Blade Ward instead of Hex for concentration, no weapon mastery, and 5thp from Armor of Agathys &lt; 6.5 hp from second wind.&nbsp; Casting Shield for 1 round for free once doesn't compensate for the difference.&nbsp; Additional castings of shield means not casting armor of agathys but worth it.&nbsp; I don't think the warlock idea is that bad for survivability at 1st level.&nbsp; I don't see them as matching up, however.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ashrym, post: 9596425, member: 6750235"] For starting equipment the fighter is offered chainmail with no shield, studded leather with no shield, or 155gp to buy armor which is going to likely be chain mail and shield based on the premise. +1 AC for fighting style and still does d8+3 damage with a longsword plus sap via weapon mastery. Plus Second Wind. Barbarians can rage for the damage reduction and apply weapon mastery but cannot replenish healing. Clerics can have nearly the same AC but lack weapon mastery effects and need to invest in STR i bit while relying on giving up other spells for healing to increase their survivability. Paladins match up with the fighters pretty well. They can wear the same armor and take the same weapon mastery but lack a point of AC from the fighting style at 1st level. They also invest in CHA so typically have slightly less CON unless they give up a point on the attack stat. 2 Cure Wounds (at 16 CHA) is 24hp + 5hp from LoH where 2 second winds would be 13 hp of healing plus 2 more assuming 2 short rests becomes 26 hp and better with 3 short rests or more. Assuming the paladin uses those spell slots for healing instead of something else. I voted fighter. The warlock would have a 15 AC maybe and can use Blade Ward instead of Hex for concentration, no weapon mastery, and 5thp from Armor of Agathys < 6.5 hp from second wind. Casting Shield for 1 round for free once doesn't compensate for the difference. Additional castings of shield means not casting armor of agathys but worth it. I don't think the warlock idea is that bad for survivability at 1st level. I don't see them as matching up, however. [/QUOTE]

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