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<blockquote data-quote="Ashrym" data-source="post: 9596453" data-attributes="member: 6750235">I wouldn't wait until I was at 1 or 2 hp to use second wind.&nbsp; As soon as I'm below half hit points the averages work out and I'm not creating unnecessary risk.&nbsp; That's anywhere from 1 to 6 hit points.We also cannot omit weapon masteries creating disadvantage on attacks.&nbsp; If I go with the sword and shield style mentioned then make 12 attacks in the day that's ~8 incoming attacks at disadvantage.&nbsp; Disadvantage against AC 19 in 1st level encounters is significant. Goblins and kobold minions, for example, are +4 to hit. The warlock example has a 20 AC for 1 round and that's it if we're arguing armor of agathys; or the warlock has 20 AC for 1 round per short rest if we're arguing shield instead.&nbsp; It can't be both ways because the warlock only has 1 pact slot per short rest.&nbsp; The fighter has 19 AC all the time and inflicts Sap once each of his turns, and possibly on a reaction.That changes the chance to take a crit from 1 in 20 to 1 in 400 from those attacks on top of leveraging that high AC.The problem with the warlock is the thp are pretty much gone in one hit and that AC gone after that one round.EDIT:&nbsp; I'll also point out that the fighter would start with 3 more hp than the warlock as a good chunk of that thp too.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ashrym, post: 9596453, member: 6750235"] I wouldn't wait until I was at 1 or 2 hp to use second wind. As soon as I'm below half hit points the averages work out and I'm not creating unnecessary risk. That's anywhere from 1 to 6 hit points. We also cannot omit weapon masteries creating disadvantage on attacks. If I go with the sword and shield style mentioned then make 12 attacks in the day that's ~8 incoming attacks at disadvantage. Disadvantage against AC 19 in 1st level encounters is significant. Goblins and kobold minions, for example, are +4 to hit. The warlock example has a 20 AC for 1 round and that's it if we're arguing armor of agathys; or the warlock has 20 AC for 1 round per short rest if we're arguing shield instead. It can't be both ways because the warlock only has 1 pact slot per short rest. The fighter has 19 AC all the time and inflicts Sap once each of his turns, and possibly on a reaction. That changes the chance to take a crit from 1 in 20 to 1 in 400 from those attacks on top of leveraging that high AC. The problem with the warlock is the thp are pretty much gone in one hit and that AC gone after that one round. EDIT: I'll also point out that the fighter would start with 3 more hp than the warlock as a good chunk of that thp too. [/QUOTE]

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