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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 9602207" data-attributes="member: 2525">They start with enough gold for a Scale Mail, Shield, Battle Axe, and some other equipment. You don't get to make defensive assumptions for the Fighter but not the Barbarian to prove your point. Let's put this issue to bed: Barbarian starts with 18 AC.Obviously they can take another feat but as BOTH GET A FREE FEAT IT'S A WASH. For example, do you want to run calculations for party survivability if the Barbarian takes Musician? Do we run calculations for Lucky? Come on man, YOU ARE SPINNING IN AN ILLEGIT WAY. Fighters gain no benefit from a first level feat beyond a Barbarian.Are you arguing a Goblin Warrior is an unfair foe to choose for analysis at first level? If not, what is the point of what you said?I honestly just grabbed the most common goblin. I didn't pay attention to a specific one you mentioned, and given you're spinning stuff to your benefit throughout this thread I am glad I didn't. If you don't like the Goblin Warrior, it's more proof you cherry pick. My choice was fairly random. It's a standard goblin warrior. That should be fine for analysis.I don't care since it's not accurate. We use precise numbers for the PC, so we should use precise numbers for the monster. What I did was accurate. If you don't like it, my guess is it was more of you spinning stuff to some advantage for an argument.It's not default. Neither is default. EVERYONE I know plays with the actual dice and not the average, and all VTTs easily use the dice.Yes intentionally so because my argument is the hit chance is the same. If you don't like it, do your own analysis. But use AC 18 for Barbarian and 19 for Fighter, rather than your spin involving gold and feat choice. Run it fair or don't run it at all. Ignore starting feat as they both get a valuable feat and that's an honest way to do it. This isn't a "Build challenge! First level!" It's asking what NORMAL first level PC is most survivable at first level. It's why I mentioned earlier that usually both their ACs would be 17 because they will want to make different choices most of the time that don't involve defense anyway.I just used the statblock man, I don't write the creatures. It's an ability they have. Take it up with WOTC.This is more silliness. I'm growing close to concluding this is an unproductive conversation if your trying to spin that it's unfair AT FIRST LEVEL to assume damage that's slashing, piercing or bludgeoning.</blockquote>

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