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<blockquote data-quote="(Psi)SeveredHead" data-source="post: 3303465" data-attributes="member: 1165">Monks need a rewrite. I think they need to be split into two classes; a base non-ki-using class (20 levels) and a 10-level ki-heavy PrC that builds upon the base class. In theory, a Martial Artist 10/Monk 10 would be balanced with a Martial Artist 20. That would be nice to see.The unarmed combat rules would need to be rewritten plus the whole gamut of rules surround it (eg Improved Natural Attack), the Amulet of Mighty Fists should be renamed the Monk's Belt (and cost less, and be as full-enhanceable as a regular weapon, so a monk or martial artist could have a +4 frost Monk's Belt ... get rid of the old Monk's Belt) and of course that means it wouldn't be taking up the Periapt of Wisdom slot, and so forth.It would need full BAB, more reasonable damage (eg no more than d6 or d8 base damage, because it's using its bare hands as weapons and the new Monk's Belt would mean it wouldn't need such cheese anyway, so it would be on-par with a dual-wielding light fighter, and other related rules changes). It would need less MAD, at least for the non-ki-using base class.I'd like to see a little bit of the d20 Modern Martial Artist imported into it; I don't know how much could be transferred without making things ridiculous though.But this may be a bit off-topic, right?Bards need a tune-up or something; IMO, if the songs were beefed and rewritten, they'd be better. (I still hate how the defense song isn't available until like 15th-level ... a bard can't be a swordfighter without an OOTS-inspired PrC, not that said PrC is a bad thing.) I think it would be cool if the song gave the bard a double bonus (so +1 for the fighter, +2 for the bard).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="(Psi)SeveredHead, post: 3303465, member: 1165"] Monks need a rewrite. I think they need to be split into two classes; a base non-ki-using class (20 levels) and a 10-level ki-heavy PrC that builds upon the base class. In theory, a Martial Artist 10/Monk 10 would be balanced with a Martial Artist 20. That would be nice to see. The unarmed combat rules would need to be rewritten plus the whole gamut of rules surround it (eg Improved Natural Attack), the Amulet of Mighty Fists should be renamed the Monk's Belt (and cost less, and be as full-enhanceable as a regular weapon, so a monk or martial artist could have a +4 frost Monk's Belt ... get rid of the old Monk's Belt) and of course that means it wouldn't be taking up the Periapt of Wisdom slot, and so forth. It would need full BAB, more reasonable damage (eg no more than d6 or d8 base damage, because it's using its bare hands as weapons and the new Monk's Belt would mean it wouldn't need such cheese anyway, so it would be on-par with a dual-wielding light fighter, and other related rules changes). It would need less MAD, at least for the non-ki-using base class. I'd like to see a little bit of the d20 Modern Martial Artist imported into it; I don't know how much could be transferred without making things ridiculous though. But this may be a bit off-topic, right? Bards need a tune-up or something; IMO, if the songs were beefed and rewritten, they'd be better. (I still hate how the defense song isn't available until like 15th-level ... a bard can't be a swordfighter without an OOTS-inspired PrC, not that said PrC is a bad thing.) I think it would be cool if the song gave the bard a double bonus (so +1 for the fighter, +2 for the bard). [/QUOTE]

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