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<blockquote data-quote="Nonlethal Force" data-source="post: 3303581" data-attributes="member: 35788">Having taken on taught Statistics for a number of years, I agree with this conceptually.&nbsp; However, I have to agree with Corthian's earlier point more.I strongly believe that when people here are voting that they are not voting from a generic possibility but rather they are voting from their specific experience.Thus, the people that voted monk or bard as bad are saying that in their experience in games specific to their DMs that the monk or bard did not pan out.&nbsp; While that is useful, it is no more than that.But, as a DM I can make a game that has no combat.&nbsp; Period.&nbsp; Is the bard really so useless now?&nbsp; Is the fighter really so valuable?&nbsp; I can make a game where steel weapons and armor are simply not known and there is no equivalent.&nbsp; Is the monk really so bad now?I realize and accept that these would not be typical D&amp;D scenarios.&nbsp; I grant that much.&nbsp; But what Crothian was illustrating (or at least what I took the post to mean) is that this is a poll asking people to apply their unknown specific experience generically.This poll says more about which classes do people not like to play than it says about which classes are truly poor.&nbsp; That is a valid piece of information so long as we do not confuse one with the other.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Nonlethal Force, post: 3303581, member: 35788"] Having taken on taught Statistics for a number of years, I agree with this conceptually. However, I have to agree with Corthian's earlier point more. I strongly believe that when people here are voting that they are not voting from a generic possibility but rather they are voting from their specific experience. Thus, the people that voted monk or bard as bad are saying that in their experience in games specific to their DMs that the monk or bard did not pan out. While that is useful, it is no more than that. But, as a DM I can make a game that has no combat. Period. Is the bard really so useless now? Is the fighter really so valuable? I can make a game where steel weapons and armor are simply not known and there is no equivalent. Is the monk really so bad now? I realize and accept that these would not be typical D&D scenarios. I grant that much. But what Crothian was illustrating (or at least what I took the post to mean) is that this is a poll asking people to apply their unknown specific experience generically. This poll says more about which classes do people not like to play than it says about which classes are truly poor. That is a valid piece of information so long as we do not confuse one with the other. [/QUOTE]

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