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<blockquote data-quote="Arkhandus" data-source="post: 3303664" data-attributes="member: 13966">Bards have everything they need to excel in social situations, urban areas, and some wilderness adventures.&nbsp; They even have a bit of dungeoneering ability, though not so much actual offensive or defensive capacity.&nbsp; Still, with the right buffs, bardic music, feats, and such, a bard can do decently as a second-tier combatant.Monks, however, are fairly limited despite their abundance of abilities.&nbsp; Monks are only really good for moving around, doing alright in grapples, and using hit-and-run tactics.&nbsp; They can fight spellcasters well (mostly just at upper levels though), but need magic items to fly (which an enemy spellcaster can just dispel, and thus attack the monk with impunity).&nbsp; Of course, spellcasters have some difficulty killing mid-level and high-level monks, but can manage if they didn't just focus on area-blasting and ray spells (of course, they can just try using enough summoned monsters).&nbsp; Monks can sneak about, but not as well as a rogue or bard in most cases.&nbsp; They're second-rate or third-rate damage-dealers at most levels, especially if they don't just forsake AC and skills.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Arkhandus, post: 3303664, member: 13966"] Bards have everything they need to excel in social situations, urban areas, and some wilderness adventures. They even have a bit of dungeoneering ability, though not so much actual offensive or defensive capacity. Still, with the right buffs, bardic music, feats, and such, a bard can do decently as a second-tier combatant. Monks, however, are fairly limited despite their abundance of abilities. Monks are only really good for moving around, doing alright in grapples, and using hit-and-run tactics. They can fight spellcasters well (mostly just at upper levels though), but need magic items to fly (which an enemy spellcaster can just dispel, and thus attack the monk with impunity). Of course, spellcasters have some difficulty killing mid-level and high-level monks, but can manage if they didn't just focus on area-blasting and ray spells (of course, they can just try using enough summoned monsters). Monks can sneak about, but not as well as a rogue or bard in most cases. They're second-rate or third-rate damage-dealers at most levels, especially if they don't just forsake AC and skills. [/QUOTE]

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