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<blockquote data-quote="Drowbane" data-source="post: 2657853" data-attributes="member: 23396"><p>Barbarian: all it really has going for it is the Rage... thus I tend to splash a little Bbn into my Fighter. Bbn DR is pretty craptastic at any lvl. Please, by lvl 17 or whatever DR 5/- just isn't that relevant... certainly not compared to your typical fighter's uber AC... the Uncanny Dodge is nice though. A throw-back to the original Barbarian from Unearthed Arcana (1e).</p><p></p><p>Bard: They're a support class. As such, they tend to be weak. I don't know if this is just how people play them... or if its true to the class in general. I've seen some rather pathetic Bards...</p><p></p><p>Fighter: great at lower lvls... extremely weak and lame compared to any spellcaster at the high end.</p><p></p><p>Monk: Monks are mighty if you have great stats (not just good, but G R E A T)... otherwise they're pretty wussified.</p><p></p><p>Paladin: Not only are these a pain to Roleplay (I can think of perhaps 3 players in 16yrs who didn't make a total mess of it...) but they're kinda weak at all levels... </p><p></p><p>Ranger: eh, what do these guys do? They're tough vs a small group (or 3) of monsters, and rather lame vs everybody else. Tracking is nice... but in truth they could've just given Fighter more Skills and been done with it. They're terrible casters, all thier spells should just be bumped to the Druid list. Not to mention the craptasticly weak Animal Companion they get... Perhaps if thier companion was "As level -3" instead of "as 1/2 level"...</p><p></p><p>The most successful Melee Characters I've seen have been Barbarian/Fighter/Rogue multiclassings... with heavy focus on Rogue. Nothing like a Dwarf tumbling into position (in Full Plate no less!) with greatsword and then raging...</p><p></p><p>Anyways, thats my two bits <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue :P" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" /> (never claimed to be good at math <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue :P" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" />)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Drowbane, post: 2657853, member: 23396"] Barbarian: all it really has going for it is the Rage... thus I tend to splash a little Bbn into my Fighter. Bbn DR is pretty craptastic at any lvl. Please, by lvl 17 or whatever DR 5/- just isn't that relevant... certainly not compared to your typical fighter's uber AC... the Uncanny Dodge is nice though. A throw-back to the original Barbarian from Unearthed Arcana (1e). Bard: They're a support class. As such, they tend to be weak. I don't know if this is just how people play them... or if its true to the class in general. I've seen some rather pathetic Bards... Fighter: great at lower lvls... extremely weak and lame compared to any spellcaster at the high end. Monk: Monks are mighty if you have great stats (not just good, but G R E A T)... otherwise they're pretty wussified. Paladin: Not only are these a pain to Roleplay (I can think of perhaps 3 players in 16yrs who didn't make a total mess of it...) but they're kinda weak at all levels... Ranger: eh, what do these guys do? They're tough vs a small group (or 3) of monsters, and rather lame vs everybody else. Tracking is nice... but in truth they could've just given Fighter more Skills and been done with it. They're terrible casters, all thier spells should just be bumped to the Druid list. Not to mention the craptasticly weak Animal Companion they get... Perhaps if thier companion was "As level -3" instead of "as 1/2 level"... The most successful Melee Characters I've seen have been Barbarian/Fighter/Rogue multiclassings... with heavy focus on Rogue. Nothing like a Dwarf tumbling into position (in Full Plate no less!) with greatsword and then raging... Anyways, thats my two bits :P (never claimed to be good at math :P) [/QUOTE]
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