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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Shin Okada" data-source="post: 2659111" data-attributes="member: 1956">It is off-topic but I found this mind set is strong in people who used to play AD&D. Or who used to hear a lot of rumor regarding AD&D. Newer players, who met D&D after 3rd edition, tend not have that mindset. I met a lot of newer female players (or even male players) who try to play a "sacred heroine" type. Or, in other words, Miko-San. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> Or, people who used to play Chromatic D&D but not AD&D (that means many older Japanese players) tend to have memories that clerics were almost as strong as fighters in melee (or even stronger with striking spell) and yet could cast a lot of spells. The difference of THAC0s were so small.IMHO it is partially true. In some extend, all the abilities of characters are irrelevant. But we are talking about "baseline games" right?And also, when a party has two or more characters who can do a certain role, the difference in effectiveness based on rules become significant, and possibly a problem.Say, a party has a typical warrior type (someone with high strength and full-BAB) and a monk, who has lower BAB and tend to have lower strength. If a DM set an encounter to be a challenging one, and choose a monster with AC which the warrior type can hit and miss in good percentages, a monk may become really inefficient. This kind of thing may happen especially at higher level games.On the other hand, a cleric can be an efficient melee combatant with a single cast of Divine Power spell in this case. Or he can just cast Flame Strike. When such difference is there, I say Monk is a weak class, and Cleric is a strong class. Because, the player of the monk may easily feel he is playing a class with no good, while the player of cleric may easily find a way to make his character do some active role.</blockquote>

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