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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Storm Raven" data-source="post: 2664110" data-attributes="member: 307">Yes, they do. But those religious practices don't always include healing the sick, giving to the poor and the various other things you assume is part and parcel of being a good cleric. Thus, your arguments, while they might be relevant in a particular setting, are of almost no value elsewhere.Yes, you are bad at math. here's why: every example you have put forward of elements of an "overpowered" monk, or an "underpowered" cleric has been shown to be flawed. Your monk examples are especially bad - your "super grappler monk" isn't even better than the straight fighter at grappling, his supposed specialty. Your tactical examples of how the monk could deal with comparable members of other classes are laughable, since they are easily thwarted by the most rudimentary preparation and tactics (throwing shuriken from 45 feet away was an especially silly idea of yours). You just don't understand the rules and the math underlying them well enough to advance arguments on this topic that make sense.You get basic math wrong - you estimated the difference between your example monk and a typical fighter at 20th level would be "~20 hit points". In reality, it turns out that it would be about 80. Go over to the "overpowered" thread and deal with the counterexamples set out to your "super grappler monk", if you get your numbers straight and make any viable points then maybe someone might start paying attention to you.</blockquote>

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