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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nail" data-source="post: 2668459" data-attributes="member: 224">I'll say one thing for you, IamIan: You sure do provide a moving target! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Let's recap:You posted a Mnk 10 grappler, to show how over-powered the Monk class is.  Many, many, many people have shown you that your posted monk is just dead meat waiting to be collected.Now you've tried to show that Monks are overpowered by posting a high- AC Monk.  (I congratulate you on your post; it actually has facts we can discuss.)  Your Mnk 20's AC is 54, which is great, but his hp is ony 74!  That's awful!(The DR/Magic is irrelevant at that level.  Also, given access at EL 20 to See Invisibility and such, the Blinking ain't that great either.)Your Mnk 20's damage potential is also unimpressive.  With flurry and Boots of Speed, you get: +30 / +30 / +30 / +30 / +25 / +20 (2d8+3).  Just so we are crystal clear on this:You posted a Ftr 20 with ~ AC 47.  Your Monk 20's average damage per full round attack against this AC is 11.3 hp.  (I have a spreadsheet which can calculate this stuff.)Again: Using a full round attack, your monk does an average of 11.3 hp of damage against a foe with an AC of 47.For comparison purposes, an Old Red dragon (w/o equipment or draconomicon feats) does 54.2 hp damage per full round attack against AC 47.For comparison purposes, the half-orc Bbn you propose does 102.0 hp of damage per full round attack against AC 47.Against your Mnk 20, that same Bbn 20 would do 42.6 hp of damage with a full round attack.  Your Mnk 20 would be dead in less than 2 rounds.Do you see why the rest of us don't think very highly of a monk in toe-to-toe combat?</blockquote>

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