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Message: <blockquote data-quote="JohnSnow" data-source="post: 4057355" data-attributes="member: 32164">Well, we know that Paladin Smites are charisma-based attacks. One can assume, logically, that wizard "Spells" (at-will, per-encounter and per-day) are intelligence-based attacks. If, logically, the wizard's magical "attacks" use the same level-based bonus (+1 per 2 levels) as every other attack type, then any character who knows wizard powers can also make an int-based magical attack.Logically, it would make sense for the wizard to get a class-based bonus to those attacks (+2, for example) just as it would make sense for a fighter to get a class-based bonus to his melee attacks.So a 9th-level wizard might be able to cast 9th-level spells with a magical attack bonus of +10. By contrast, the 9th-level fighter who takes a wizard training feat might gain access to a 9th-level power that he can use with a magical attack bonus of only +6. While it's still useful, the wizard has a definite advantage. Where did I get those numbers?Wizard:+4 BAB (9th-level) +4 (18 INT) +2 (wizard class bonus) = +10Fighter:+4 BAB (9th-level) +2 (14 INT) = +6And it's likely that the discrepancy would be even higher, due to possible feat bonuses, differences in ability scores, a more powerful implement, and so on. But both characters will have the same 9th-level power, which means it'll be equally effective assuming it succeeds. So the 9th-level wizard's fireball will probably do more damage (because it beats more people's REF defense) than the fireball cast by a fighter who's taken the wizard training feat.This way, the fighter's power is far from "ineffective." But there's still definite benefits to being the wizard. See above. I think the power will be restricted by character level. In other words, by taking the "Wizard Training" feat you'll be able to choose any wizard power with a level equal to your character level (or less). So a 9th-level fighter who takes wizard training can take any wizard power that's Level 9 or lower.</blockquote>

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