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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Charlaquin" data-source="post: 8413992" data-attributes="member: 6779196">Generally I don’t think grid-filling for the sake of grid-filling leads to the best designs. But it’s still an interesting exercise. I agree with cleric -> paladin -> fighter and druid -> ranger -> barbarian, but wizard -> artificer -> rogue feels weird to me. I could see wizard -> bard -> rogue working if bards were half-casters in 5e, but since they’re full-casters, I think  chart might look something like…<table style='width: 100%'><tr><td>Full Caster</td><td>Half-Caster</td><td>Non-Caster</td></tr><tr><td>Bard</td><td>Arcane Trickster</td><td>Rogue</td></tr><tr><td>Cleric</td><td>Paladin</td><td>Fighter</td></tr><tr><td>Druid</td><td>Ranger</td><td>Barbarian</td></tr><tr><td>Sorcerer</td><td>Mystic</td><td>Monk</td></tr><tr><td>Warlock</td><td>Hexblade</td><td>Assassin</td></tr><tr><td>Wizard</td><td>Artificer</td><td>Tinker</td></tr></table>Arcane trickster is of course a rogue subclass in 5e, but if we’re committing to this grid idea I would expand the concept into a full class with half casting (and maybe half sneak attack progression?)Similarly, hexblade is a warlock subclass, but it has always been a weird one, and I think would be better served as a “half pact magic caster.” For the non-caster in this lineup I went with assassin despite that being another rogue subclass already. But in trying to come up with a non-magical class with a thematic link to warlocks and hexblades, I imagined a character bound in service by a non-magical “pact” to a temporal “patron”, and I realized a contract killer fit that description perfectly.I’m using “mystic” as the name for the half-caster between Sorcerer and Monk, but I imagine it being quite different than the mystic from Unearthed Arcana. Rather than the equivalent of a full-caster in a full psionic casting-but-not-casting subsystem, I imagine this mystic as bridging the gap between sorcerer and monk through the common theme of inner power. Where the sorcerer’s innate power is purely metaphysical and the monk channels their inner power through their physical body, the mystic would use their mind as a conduit between the two. Sorcerers and monks also both use a power point system, so I imagine the Mystic would do so as well.The tinker is just a straightforward non-magical artificer. They make cool gadgets and they don’t cast spells. Not very inspiring, but there you have it.</blockquote>

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