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<blockquote data-quote="Undrave" data-source="post: 9354269" data-attributes="member: 7015698">That's a very good point. I voted for Fighter but it also doesn't mean I ACTUALLY want it remove, mind you. Maybe these base class with strong subclass flavour would work better if they got subclass earlier? If the Wizard, Fighter, Rogue and Cleric all got their subclass at first level, singling them as the 'basic classes with strong subclass flavour' I think it would work pretty well, and then the other classes would get their later because they have a stronger core identity. At the same time I feel like you can do a bookish magic user with pretty much any of the caster. It's just a personality trait. And the subclass budget is too long IMO because the Wizard gets too much stuff from the base class. It's why I prefer the main class to give LESS spells per level and have the subclass give more to personalized extras. I also think not all magic school work as a subclass.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Undrave, post: 9354269, member: 7015698"] That's a very good point. I voted for Fighter but it also doesn't mean I ACTUALLY want it remove, mind you. Maybe these base class with strong subclass flavour would work better if they got subclass earlier? If the Wizard, Fighter, Rogue and Cleric all got their subclass at first level, singling them as the 'basic classes with strong subclass flavour' I think it would work pretty well, and then the other classes would get their later because they have a stronger core identity. At the same time I feel like you can do a bookish magic user with pretty much any of the caster. It's just a personality trait. And the subclass budget is too long IMO because the Wizard gets too much stuff from the base class. It's why I prefer the main class to give LESS spells per level and have the subclass give more to personalized extras. I also think not all magic school work as a subclass. [/QUOTE]

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