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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9358257" data-attributes="member: 6790260">Hands down, Fighter, Wizard, Rogue. In that order.The Fighter literally does not have identity at all. It is just a random assemblage of &quot;do damage&quot; and &quot;be strong&quot; features. Even calling it &quot;vanilla&quot; would be orders of magnitude more flavor than it possesses. It's not even unflavored water. It's unflavored air.The Wizard and Rogue at least have some identity, but they utterly fail at actually implementing it. Rogues at least get a lot out of their subclasses. Wizards don't for at least 3/4 of all their subclasses, and the class itself does diddly-squat to depict or even support the theme (hermetic researcher-magician who concocts new spells via study and learning.) When the ENTIRETY of your class's thematics happen off camera, something is desperately, desperately wrong with your class.Of course, I'm opposed to removing classes, so I dispute the fundamental premise of the thread to begin with. Don't remove any of these classes.Make them better, for Bahamut's sake!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 9358257, member: 6790260"] Hands down, Fighter, Wizard, Rogue. In that order. The Fighter literally does not have identity at all. It is just a random assemblage of "do damage" and "be strong" features. Even calling it "vanilla" would be orders of magnitude more flavor than it possesses. It's not even unflavored water. It's unflavored[I] air[/I]. The Wizard and Rogue at least have [I]some[/I] identity, but they utterly fail at actually implementing it. Rogues at least get a lot out of their subclasses. Wizards don't for at least 3/4 of all their subclasses, and the class itself does diddly-squat to depict or even [I]support[/I] the theme (hermetic researcher-magician who concocts new spells via study and learning.) When the ENTIRETY of your class's thematics happen [I]off camera[/I], something is desperately, desperately wrong with your class. Of course, I'm opposed to removing classes, so I dispute the fundamental premise of the thread to begin with. Don't remove any of these classes. [I][B][U]Make them better, for Bahamut's sake![/U][/B][/I] [/QUOTE]

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