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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 9363889" data-attributes="member: 93670">If you go back a few posts to <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/which-classes-have-the-least-identity.704367/post-9363436" target="_blank">394</a> you will see some problems with that conclusion in the fact that I described a totally different type of gas guzzler and a sports car. The level of &quot;suboptimal&quot; you are ascribing to fighter really only ever happens in point buy games like shadowrun when a player can not even bother to take anything that doesn't directly contribute to killing or tanking.&nbsp; Take the <a href="https://www.dndbeyond.com/classes/10-fighter" target="_blank">fighter skill options</a> as further evidence; the vast majority of them are relevant to social and exploration type scenarios yet players almost always choose the few that can be pretty much only used in combat and exploration scenarios and the fighter still has race+background skill choices.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 9363889, member: 93670"] If you go back a few posts to [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/which-classes-have-the-least-identity.704367/post-9363436']394[/URL] you will see some problems with that conclusion in the fact that I described a totally different type of gas guzzler [I]and[/I] a sports car. The level of "suboptimal" you are ascribing to fighter really only ever happens in point buy games like shadowrun when a player can not even bother to take anything that doesn't directly contribute to killing or tanking. Take the [URL='https://www.dndbeyond.com/classes/10-fighter']fighter skill options[/URL] as further evidence; the vast majority of them are relevant to social and exploration type scenarios yet players almost always choose the few that can be pretty much only used in combat and exploration scenarios and the fighter still has race+background skill choices. [/QUOTE]

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