Reply to thread

Message

<blockquote data-quote="Joe Liker" data-source="post: 6361236" data-attributes="member: 6777505">When you first brought up bards, you also didn't give any reasons, so I guess I felt like it was obvious that I think the things the 5e bard can do are the things I consider bardy.The ability to cast party buffs seems like an oddly narrow thing to focus in on as the class's signature feature. I feel like the bard's versatility has been far more emphasized in previous editions than party buffs, and to me, it is the true core of the class.In fact, it is that versatility that allows the 5e bard to do everything you claim it cannot do.A few levels into the game (6 for College of Lore), the bard can do exactly the same thing. You can learn any spell in the game as a bard, so if group buffs are this important to you, you should take the bless spell and buff your little heart out. At level 10, you can take those sweet paladin auras as well.As for Bardic Inspiration, I don't have a problem with it. It's a great addition to the bard's repertoire, but again, I don't really understand why you think it is supposed to represent the core of the class. To me, Song of Rest and Countercharm are a far more realistic representation of how a bard's music can support the rest of his party.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Joe Liker, post: 6361236, member: 6777505"] When you first brought up bards, you also didn't give any reasons, so I guess I felt like it was obvious that I think the things the 5e bard can do are the things I consider bardy. The ability to cast party buffs seems like an oddly narrow thing to focus in on as the class's signature feature. I feel like the bard's versatility has been far more emphasized in previous editions than party buffs, and to me, it is the true core of the class. In fact, it is that versatility that allows the 5e bard to do everything you claim it cannot do. A few levels into the game (6 for College of Lore), the bard can do exactly the same thing. You can learn any spell in the game as a bard, so if group buffs are this important to you, you should take the [I]bless [/I]spell and buff your little heart out. At level 10, you can take those sweet paladin auras as well. As for Bardic Inspiration, I don't have a problem with it. It's a great addition to the bard's repertoire, but again, I don't really understand why you think it is supposed to represent the core of the class. To me, Song of Rest and Countercharm are a far more realistic representation of how a bard's music can support the rest of his party. [/QUOTE]

Verification