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<blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 7319693" data-attributes="member: 15700">Why do some people take it as a personal affront to them if others don’t like, or couldn’t care less about a warlord class existing?&nbsp; Get some perspective people, jeez. The hyperbole doesn’t help. Who are these people who “come hell or high water” are trying to keep the warlord not a class?&nbsp; Just because you didn’t get what you want how you wanted it doesn’t mean there is some vast conspiracy against you. None of us are that important, sorry. 5e has already given a nod to the warlord. Both as not one but TWO subclasses, and in mechanics and feats. Is it just because there isn’t a dedicated class with that name?&nbsp; Over the many discussions about this class over the past few years, it is pointedly clear that even warlord fans can’t agree what they’d like to see as a class. We’ve had literally dozens of variations and everyone argues about it.&nbsp; The 4e warlord will never exist in 5e. It can’t. The mechanics are different. So stop demanding it. I’m not against a warlord class, but if I was on the WoTC team, I would avoid it like the plague because I just know whatever we would put out would be met with a ton of hostility and complaints if history is any indicator.&nbsp; Honestly, I think warlord fans are their own worst enemy here, because it seems more than a few are vocal and frequent with their irrational and unfair hyperbolic accusations. That’s important because as a third party and as a game designer, if I see a fan base who acts like that, just makes me want to avoid making the class because I have more important things to do than put up myself right in the line of fire for that kind of drama.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sacrosanct, post: 7319693, member: 15700"] Why do some people take it as a personal affront to them if others don’t like, or couldn’t care less about a warlord class existing? Get some perspective people, jeez. The hyperbole doesn’t help. Who are these people who “come hell or high water” are trying to keep the warlord not a class? Just because you didn’t get what you want how you wanted it doesn’t mean there is some vast conspiracy against you. None of us are that important, sorry. 5e has already given a nod to the warlord. Both as not one but TWO subclasses, and in mechanics and feats. Is it just because there isn’t a dedicated class with that name? Over the many discussions about this class over the past few years, it is pointedly clear that even warlord fans can’t agree what they’d like to see as a class. We’ve had literally dozens of variations and everyone argues about it. The 4e warlord will never exist in 5e. It can’t. The mechanics are different. So stop demanding it. I’m not against a warlord class, but if I was on the WoTC team, I would avoid it like the plague because I just know whatever we would put out would be met with a ton of hostility and complaints if history is any indicator. Honestly, I think warlord fans are their own worst enemy here, because it seems more than a few are vocal and frequent with their irrational and unfair hyperbolic accusations. That’s important because as a third party and as a game designer, if I see a fan base who acts like that, just makes me want to avoid making the class because I have more important things to do than put up myself right in the line of fire for that kind of drama. [/QUOTE]

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