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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Zardnaar" data-source="post: 7319905" data-attributes="member: 6716779">Mostly this, there are only a few classes (without getting into very niche/silly names stuff) are strong enough concepts to stand on their own. Even artificer can be a wizard subclass (and it actually was pre Eberron in 2E). THe Mystic/Psioni is one, a decent Fighter/Mage type (arcane Paladin/Swordmage/Duskblade etc) as the PHB ones are lacklustre. You could almost do a warlord but it would probably to be what 4E hard core players would want (ie at will attack granting, cleric levels healing) and you could arguably make that class 3 or 4 feats so anyone could do some of it as you do not need a dedicated leader class. Batttlemaster fighter+ healer feat+ inspiring leader+commander feat for example covers the concept. Creating variant fighter options could work such as swapping out second wind for something else.</blockquote>