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<blockquote data-quote="TiwazTyrsfist" data-source="post: 7320723" data-attributes="member: 70582">While I have no problem with Warlord (I thought it was one of the best additions in 4e) I really doubt we will ever get Warlord as a full class or even a subclass in 5e, since Battle Master Fighter is, essentially, a stripped down nerfed up Warlord.Warlord:Grant Attack to ally every round.At-Will attacks that reposition enemiesAt-Will powers that let allies moveCleric level healing.Battle Master:Commanders Strike - Give ally attack, +superiority die to DmgPushing Attack - Att W/ Superiority to Dmg, Str Sv push 15Maneuvering Attack - Att w/ Superiority to Dmg, Ally can move 1/2 speedRally - Grant Ally Superiority + Cha Temp HP.Do any or all of these a Total of 4-6 times between long rests...So, clearly, they nerfed all of Warlord's things and then gave the battered remains to Battle Master.&nbsp; And it is STILL arguably the BEST Fighter Subclass. I, personally, would love more versatile martial classes.&nbsp; I just lack the resolve to keep arguing with the people who are just absolutely adamant that Fireballs and Dragons and Dragon-Flesh-Golem-Mummies are fine and flavorful but non-magical healing or an archer who can shoot six arrows at once without magic are immersion killing and game breaking.I would be willing to argue that if Monks over the top stuff is justified by Ki, then ALL MARTIAL CLASSES access their fighting spiritual energy just under different names, and just freaking give all of them the equivalent of a Ki pool to fuel their powers so we can tell the poo-poo-ers to shut their cake holes.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="TiwazTyrsfist, post: 7320723, member: 70582"] While I have no problem with Warlord (I thought it was one of the best additions in 4e) I really doubt we will ever get Warlord as a full class or even a subclass in 5e, since Battle Master Fighter is, essentially, a stripped down nerfed up Warlord. Warlord: Grant Attack to ally every round. At-Will attacks that reposition enemies At-Will powers that let allies move Cleric level healing. Battle Master: Commanders Strike - Give ally attack, +superiority die to Dmg Pushing Attack - Att W/ Superiority to Dmg, Str Sv push 15 Maneuvering Attack - Att w/ Superiority to Dmg, Ally can move 1/2 speed Rally - Grant Ally Superiority + Cha Temp HP. Do any or all of these a Total of 4-6 times between long rests... So, clearly, they nerfed all of Warlord's things and then gave the battered remains to Battle Master. And it is STILL arguably the BEST Fighter Subclass. I, personally, would love more versatile martial classes. I just lack the resolve to keep arguing with the people who are just absolutely adamant that Fireballs and Dragons and Dragon-Flesh-Golem-Mummies are fine and flavorful but non-magical healing or an archer who can shoot six arrows at once without magic are immersion killing and game breaking. [SIZE=1] [FONT=Courier New]I would be willing to argue that if Monks over the top stuff is justified by Ki, then ALL MARTIAL CLASSES access their fighting spiritual energy just under different names, and just freaking give all of them the equivalent of a Ki pool to fuel their powers so we can tell the poo-poo-ers to shut their cake holes.[/FONT][/SIZE] [/QUOTE]

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