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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 7323847" data-attributes="member: 22779">Couple of quick thoughts.Number 1 - spells don't take 6 seconds to cast.&nbsp; They take one action (unless otherwise stated).&nbsp; Meaning it takes no longer to cast a spell than swing a sword.&nbsp; So, right off the bat,&nbsp; [MENTION=6801328]Elfcrusher[/MENTION]'s example of the warlord allowing 12 seconds of actions in 6 seconds is directly countered by the actual rules.Number 2 - I had never really considered allowing Warlords to allow casters to cast two spells.&nbsp; I honestly think it's probably too powerful.&nbsp; There's no way you could allow that many castings and keep game balance.&nbsp; And, since warlords never had this ability, I'm not sure why it's a problem.Number 3 - for myself,&nbsp; [MENTION=6801328]Elfcrusher[/MENTION], I'm not dismissing your criticisms, I just find them so illogical.&nbsp; You don't have an issue with the fact that every single Warlord ability is already in the game, but, you vehemently oppose a warlord class because it doesn't fit with your sensibilities.&nbsp; I mean, what would you do if I insisted that my bard was non-magical?&nbsp; That I sit down and say that my bard is 100% non-magical, and that my inspiration dice are just that - inspiration that makes your character so happy that that character does a better job.Would that be acceptable?Number 4 - EVERY single poll that we've done on this shows warlords to be in the top three most wanted class.&nbsp; Every time.&nbsp; Well, every time that they have included warlords on the list.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />&nbsp; It's pretty frustrating to see WotC talk about class popularity of former edition classes and then leave warlords off the poll.&nbsp; But, at the end of the day, warlords top (or show up near the top) of every single poll.&nbsp; It's frustrating to see this year after year and still get absolutely no movement on the issue, mostly because the discussion gets so poisoned and toxic by edition warring rhetoric, even years after the fact.IOW, we're not going to get a warlord because edition warring has so poisoned the well that WotC simply refuses to come anywhere near an attempt.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 7323847, member: 22779"] Couple of quick thoughts. Number 1 - spells don't take 6 seconds to cast. They take one action (unless otherwise stated). Meaning it takes no longer to cast a spell than swing a sword. So, right off the bat, [MENTION=6801328]Elfcrusher[/MENTION]'s example of the warlord allowing 12 seconds of actions in 6 seconds is directly countered by the actual rules. Number 2 - I had never really considered allowing Warlords to allow casters to cast two spells. I honestly think it's probably too powerful. There's no way you could allow that many castings and keep game balance. And, since warlords never had this ability, I'm not sure why it's a problem. Number 3 - for myself, [MENTION=6801328]Elfcrusher[/MENTION], I'm not dismissing your criticisms, I just find them so illogical. You don't have an issue with the fact that every single Warlord ability is already in the game, but, you vehemently oppose a warlord class because it doesn't fit with your sensibilities. I mean, what would you do if I insisted that my bard was non-magical? That I sit down and say that my bard is 100% non-magical, and that my inspiration dice are just that - inspiration that makes your character so happy that that character does a better job. Would that be acceptable? Number 4 - EVERY single poll that we've done on this shows warlords to be in the top three most wanted class. Every time. Well, every time that they have included warlords on the list. :D It's pretty frustrating to see WotC talk about class popularity of former edition classes and then leave warlords off the poll. But, at the end of the day, warlords top (or show up near the top) of every single poll. It's frustrating to see this year after year and still get absolutely no movement on the issue, mostly because the discussion gets so poisoned and toxic by edition warring rhetoric, even years after the fact. IOW, we're not going to get a warlord because edition warring has so poisoned the well that WotC simply refuses to come anywhere near an attempt. [/QUOTE]

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