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<blockquote data-quote="Satyrn" data-source="post: 7324092" data-attributes="member: 6801204">Perhaps I should apologize slightly for brushing off your question earlier.I'm still not really inclined to answer - and especially not in this thread - because I feel like I would just be providing ammunition for someone to shout down my like, details to be nitpicked apart so someone can argue that D&amp;D doesn't support my preferences.Not that you did that.Still, that was just not a direction I wanted to carry any conversation. I'm happy discussing the &quot;martial artist&quot; as a blend of how we probably all picture it - a class that feels like it's using fantasy versions of the world's many martial arts. The details don't matter to me as much as the feel of it.Oh. I can answer you &quot;fighter?&quot; question better now, too: &quot;Berserker Barbarian&quot; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />&nbsp;If I'm aiming to make my martial artist an unarmed combatant,&nbsp; the battlemaster could handle it okay if I choose the right maneuvers, but I'd have to wait till 4th level to pick up Tavern Brawler to feel like my strikes are reasonably effective, or be a variant human. The lousy thing about taking fighter for this, though, is that unless I wear armor, none of the fighting styles apply. So I think I'd go with barbarian so I get to go unarmoured without picking up any wasted features . . . so long as the DM doesn't rule against unarmed strikes as a &quot;melee weapon.&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Satyrn, post: 7324092, member: 6801204"] Perhaps I should apologize slightly for brushing off your question earlier. I'm still not really inclined to answer - and especially not in this thread - because I feel like I would just be providing ammunition for someone to shout down my like, details to be nitpicked apart so someone can argue that D&D doesn't support my preferences. Not that you did that. Still, that was just not a direction I wanted to carry any conversation. I'm happy discussing the "martial artist" as a blend of how we probably all picture it - a class that feels like it's using fantasy versions of the world's many martial arts. The details don't matter to me as much as the feel of it. Oh. I can answer you "fighter?" question better now, too: "Berserker Barbarian" :D If I'm aiming to make my martial artist an unarmed combatant, the battlemaster could handle it okay if I choose the right maneuvers, but I'd have to wait till 4th level to pick up Tavern Brawler to feel like my strikes are reasonably effective, or be a variant human. The lousy thing about taking fighter for this, though, is that unless I wear armor, none of the fighting styles apply. So I think I'd go with barbarian so I get to go unarmoured without picking up any wasted features . . . so long as the DM doesn't rule against unarmed strikes as a "melee weapon." [/QUOTE]

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