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Which D&D 3.5 Core Base Class is the Most Powerful (Prepared Casters Excluded)?
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<blockquote data-quote="MoonSong" data-source="post: 6092908" data-attributes="member: 6689464"><p>I say bard, (if you play enough sorcerers you'll notice only a small subset of them have what it takes to be powerful, the rest just don't cut the bill). Both classes have about the same ability score requeriments, but except for spellcasting (and even then Bards have some pretty strong DC boosting support outside core) bards come on top almost everytime</p><p></p><p>Combat: Bards have better bab than sorcerers, and have access to better weapons. (Bow vs crossbow, Rapier vs spear)</p><p>AC: Bards can use light armor and cast, something the sorcerer has to give up precious spellcasting for.</p><p>HP: better hit dice</p><p>Skills: Bards have many more skill points and a high amount of skill efficiency, there is a reason Diplomancer is a thing.</p><p></p><p>Spells: yes sorcerers have a big amount of slots, but without lots of known spells to back them up, they are highly situational. Also something that usually is overlooked, is that sorcerers relly on their spells for AC and possibly combat. So at low levels they have low survivability. Unlike them, bards can use their spells as they wish or see fit, they don't have a "spell tax". And don't forget Bards have more chances to be good at melee thanks to access to some heal magic.</p><p></p><p>And let's not forget bardic music...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MoonSong, post: 6092908, member: 6689464"] I say bard, (if you play enough sorcerers you'll notice only a small subset of them have what it takes to be powerful, the rest just don't cut the bill). Both classes have about the same ability score requeriments, but except for spellcasting (and even then Bards have some pretty strong DC boosting support outside core) bards come on top almost everytime Combat: Bards have better bab than sorcerers, and have access to better weapons. (Bow vs crossbow, Rapier vs spear) AC: Bards can use light armor and cast, something the sorcerer has to give up precious spellcasting for. HP: better hit dice Skills: Bards have many more skill points and a high amount of skill efficiency, there is a reason Diplomancer is a thing. Spells: yes sorcerers have a big amount of slots, but without lots of known spells to back them up, they are highly situational. Also something that usually is overlooked, is that sorcerers relly on their spells for AC and possibly combat. So at low levels they have low survivability. Unlike them, bards can use their spells as they wish or see fit, they don't have a "spell tax". And don't forget Bards have more chances to be good at melee thanks to access to some heal magic. And let's not forget bardic music... [/QUOTE]
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