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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Karl Green" data-source="post: 334931" data-attributes="member: 1467">I have DNW for d20 and I am very happy with it. I might get 4CtF but DNW was the first PDF I have ever gotten and while I really like the game I am not a huge PDF fan as I really like just going and buying a book I guess (to old and crusty to change).BTW who is putting out Atomic City? I have heard about it somewhat in the past and was kind of interested in checking it out.For other supers games I have SAS (tri-stat), Champions/Hero BBB and FErd, V&V (1st & 2nd ed), Marvel Supers (original), DC (3rd MEG), and a few others that I can't for the life of me remember why I got. Anyway while I run a Hero FErd game right now it is with ONLY hardcore old-school Hero fans. I dread with a passion trying to teach a person the system and I have do a lot of little things to change the rules to speed up stuff (speed chart GONE; killing attacks have a stun mult of x3 base, no rolling 1d6-1; etc). It is just not that great to get new people into the game nor is it very fast (ok it is soooo slow). I am going to try out a game with weekend with DNWd20 and it should be fun. Next week I am playing in a SAS game and I am really looking forward to that also (first game in that system)</blockquote>