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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 4332151" data-attributes="member: 18">I don't think so.First impressions count. If the character builder is &quot;wrong&quot;, it will be something fixable and players will understand that it's fixable, just a matter of editing a database or the like.If the visualizer is remotely as crap as it's looked EVERY SINGLE TIME they've &quot;shown it off&quot; so far, then people will be spitting on it from on high and it'll be a bit of a PR debacle. So I'd suspect that, if the creators of the visualizer aren't both delusional and able to convince other important WotC people to share their delusions, then the visualizer is a way off. It'll have it's apologists and fans, everything does, no matter how godawful, but unless the majority of D&amp;D players can build something they like, it's bad PR waiting to happen. It's also a tool that will get hit VERY hard, because a lot of people are eager to fiddle with it - I'm sure even non-4E players or non-D&amp;D players will want to have a go.Just my opinion of course, but the visualizer needs to get it right first time, where the character builder can be close to right at first, and they can say, correctly, that we're &quot;helping them work the last kinks out&quot;.What I think though is that we'll see the character builder followed by an announcement that the rest of the DDI is on indefinate hold.I'd actually be delighted if they said they'd sold this all off to a third party, because I'm CERTAIN they'd do a better job with it than WotC has. I mean, they're motivated to make a profit off it, rather than seeming very confused and conflicted about it, and clearly unsure what it's for, as WotC is. It's in a third-party's interest to provide absolutely everything possible, but not necessarily so for WotC.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 4332151, member: 18"] I don't think so. First impressions count. If the character builder is "wrong", it will be something fixable and players will understand that it's fixable, just a matter of editing a database or the like. If the visualizer is remotely as crap as it's looked EVERY SINGLE TIME they've "shown it off" so far, then people will be spitting on it from on high and it'll be a bit of a PR debacle. So I'd suspect that, if the creators of the visualizer aren't both delusional and able to convince other important WotC people to share their delusions, then the visualizer is a way off. It'll have it's apologists and fans, everything does, no matter how godawful, but unless the majority of D&D players can build something they like, it's bad PR waiting to happen. It's also a tool that will get hit VERY hard, because a lot of people are eager to fiddle with it - I'm sure even non-4E players or non-D&D players will want to have a go. Just my opinion of course, but the visualizer needs to get it right first time, where the character builder can be close to right at first, and they can say, correctly, that we're "helping them work the last kinks out". What I think though is that we'll see the character builder followed by an announcement that the rest of the DDI is on indefinate hold. I'd actually be delighted if they said they'd sold this all off to a third party, because I'm CERTAIN they'd do a better job with it than WotC has. I mean, they're motivated to make a profit off it, rather than seeming very confused and conflicted about it, and clearly unsure what it's for, as WotC is. It's in a third-party's interest to provide absolutely everything possible, but not necessarily so for WotC. [/QUOTE]

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