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<blockquote data-quote="wingsandsword" data-source="post: 5463909" data-attributes="member: 14159">Agreed.&nbsp; 2e to 3e did completely change the game system, but the new d20 rules seemed to just be a clarification of what came before.&nbsp; It took 20 years of AD&amp;D and turned it into a more intuitive, less contradictory, far easier to learn system that still &quot;felt&quot; like AD&amp;D, but had learned from decades of game design progress.&nbsp; You could take the same campaign over the years and seamlessly convert it from 1e to to 2e to 3e to 3.5e, but at 4e it would seem like nothing is the same anymore.3e to 4e was almost as vast a change, but instead it was more like it took a game that loosely resembled D&amp;D and bolted the D&amp;D name onto it for marketing purposes.&nbsp; It may be a fine game, but it is vastly changed in both mechanics and presumed fluff from the D&amp;D editions that came before.I'd say that 3e trying hard to retain as many elements of flavor from prior editions as it did in the core rules and keeping the changes in setting presumptions fairly small is one thing that made the 3e to 4e split bigger.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="wingsandsword, post: 5463909, member: 14159"] Agreed. 2e to 3e did completely change the game system, but the new d20 rules seemed to just be a clarification of what came before. It took 20 years of AD&D and turned it into a more intuitive, less contradictory, far easier to learn system that still "felt" like AD&D, but had learned from decades of game design progress. You could take the same campaign over the years and seamlessly convert it from 1e to to 2e to 3e to 3.5e, but at 4e it would seem like nothing is the same anymore. 3e to 4e was almost as vast a change, but instead it was more like it took a game that loosely resembled D&D and bolted the D&D name onto it for marketing purposes. It may be a fine game, but it is vastly changed in both mechanics and presumed fluff from the D&D editions that came before. I'd say that 3e trying hard to retain as many elements of flavor from prior editions as it did in the core rules and keeping the changes in setting presumptions fairly small is one thing that made the 3e to 4e split bigger. [/QUOTE]

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