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<blockquote data-quote="Don Durito" data-source="post: 8117911" data-attributes="member: 6687260">Even something as simple as the undervaluing of Athletics.&nbsp; It's interesting that of the skills that have been mentioned in this thread as essential for Ranger, Athletics has seen barely a mention.&nbsp; And it's difficult to make a 5e Ranger that is particularly good at athletics*.&nbsp; Yet for a ranger in the mountains, climbing should be mandatory.&nbsp; A ranger in any kind of grassland needs the ability to run long distances.&nbsp; I guess it sticks out for me that my longest campaigns playing Rangers have both been in Dark Sun (2E and 4E).*The optimisation guides for Rangers seem to say not to both taking Athletics - which just seems bizarre to me - most of my games tend to feature mountains as the main source of wilderness, so a Ranger who cannot climb is just not going to be an effective scout - and being able to make difficult climbs to get a good vantage point over something like an enemy camp or stronghold is incredibly useful.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Don Durito, post: 8117911, member: 6687260"] Even something as simple as the undervaluing of Athletics. It's interesting that of the skills that have been mentioned in this thread as essential for Ranger, Athletics has seen barely a mention. And it's difficult to make a 5e Ranger that is particularly good at athletics*. Yet for a ranger in the mountains, climbing should be mandatory. A ranger in any kind of grassland needs the ability to run long distances. I guess it sticks out for me that my longest campaigns playing Rangers have both been in Dark Sun (2E and 4E). *The optimisation guides for Rangers seem to say not to both taking Athletics - which just seems bizarre to me - most of my games tend to feature mountains as the main source of wilderness, so a Ranger who cannot climb is just not going to be an effective scout - and being able to make difficult climbs to get a good vantage point over something like an enemy camp or stronghold is incredibly useful. [/QUOTE]

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