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<blockquote data-quote="ccs" data-source="post: 7926795" data-attributes="member: 6803664"><p>So?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I guess you could look at 2e as an improvement over 1e. But then I never claimed 1e was <em>better</em>. Just that I prefer it over the rest. </p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The 1e DMG has a random Harlot table in it. (<span style="font-size: 10px">As well as for just about anything else you might need a chart for....)</span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Demons are demons, devils are devils. Not the 2e pandering to stupid people.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">I like the art in my 1e PHB, DMG, MM, MMII, FF, & Deities & Demigods.</li> </ul><p>The good stuff, the bad, the odd, & the little cartoons. D&D is a bit of everything. It's lots of stuff & styles. The mixed bag of art shows that. That's been lost 2e+.</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">My 1e books are well made. They're tough. Well, except for UA... They're a bit battered, but they're still in one piece. UA not withstanding, I have NEVER replaced a 1e book due to wear & tear/damage. The only reason I own multiple PHB is to share at the table.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">I like <em>reading</em> my 1e stuff. Did then, still do. My 2e? Not so much. Never did really. This is really important when it comes time to run/play a game..... (although as 4e proved it could be worse) So even though 2e is much closer to 1e than PF? When I go old school I'm pulling the books I like to read.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">My 1e MM, MMII, & FF? Those are actual <em>books</em>. vs the craptastic 2e binder pages. Even when they relented & made the 2e Monster Compendium book? You STILL had to have a binder for stuff that didn't make the cut.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">I dislike the 2e Complete Class/Race/Misc series. I despise the Options books.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">I like the kind of rough kind of disorganized feel of 1e.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">I like that Gygax just wrote assuming you knew what the hell he was talking about in the DMG etc. As a kid I looked up quite a bit of stuff & asked some really odd questions. That's missing in future editions.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">And yes, I like the stat/class/lv limits, the different sub-systems for everything, & all those weird little rules tucked into the nooks & crannies of 1e.</li> </ul></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ccs, post: 7926795, member: 6803664"] So? I guess you could look at 2e as an improvement over 1e. But then I never claimed 1e was [I]better[/I]. Just that I prefer it over the rest. [LIST] [*]The 1e DMG has a random Harlot table in it. ([SIZE=2]As well as for just about anything else you might need a chart for....)[/SIZE] [*]Demons are demons, devils are devils. Not the 2e pandering to stupid people. [*]I like the art in my 1e PHB, DMG, MM, MMII, FF, & Deities & Demigods. [/LIST] The good stuff, the bad, the odd, & the little cartoons. D&D is a bit of everything. It's lots of stuff & styles. The mixed bag of art shows that. That's been lost 2e+. [LIST] [*]My 1e books are well made. They're tough. Well, except for UA... They're a bit battered, but they're still in one piece. UA not withstanding, I have NEVER replaced a 1e book due to wear & tear/damage. The only reason I own multiple PHB is to share at the table. [*]I like [I]reading[/I] my 1e stuff. Did then, still do. My 2e? Not so much. Never did really. This is really important when it comes time to run/play a game..... (although as 4e proved it could be worse) So even though 2e is much closer to 1e than PF? When I go old school I'm pulling the books I like to read. [*]My 1e MM, MMII, & FF? Those are actual [I]books[/I]. vs the craptastic 2e binder pages. Even when they relented & made the 2e Monster Compendium book? You STILL had to have a binder for stuff that didn't make the cut. [*]I dislike the 2e Complete Class/Race/Misc series. I despise the Options books. [*]I like the kind of rough kind of disorganized feel of 1e. [*]I like that Gygax just wrote assuming you knew what the hell he was talking about in the DMG etc. As a kid I looked up quite a bit of stuff & asked some really odd questions. That's missing in future editions. [*]And yes, I like the stat/class/lv limits, the different sub-systems for everything, & all those weird little rules tucked into the nooks & crannies of 1e. [/LIST] [/QUOTE]
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