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<blockquote data-quote="Oni" data-source="post: 5041958" data-attributes="member: 380">Most heated?&nbsp; Surely that goes to 4e, it seems like that edition sent a small segment of people (both for and against) right off the deep end into crazy land.&nbsp; However I don't believe your observation is without merit, though I don't think it is limited to 1e in general.&nbsp; The scripture like treatment of older gaming text in the old school community is definitely there, and to me is weird and off putting in its own way.&nbsp; For instance I read Grognardia fairly regularly and I think there is so much good stuff there, but every time James Maliszewski refers to the &quot;Old Ways&quot; in religious like tones I cringe inside because it just feeds the worst aspects of the OSR community.&nbsp; I have a real love/hate relationship with the OSR community, the games themselves I think are fascinating, and there is a lot of interesting and intelligent thought and game theory to discover in that quarter.&nbsp; However a notable and vocal segment of that community is so insular, elitist, condescending, and close minded that it just kills my enthusiasm sometimes.Also quoting Gygax does not automatically make your approach right, the only one, or unassailable.&nbsp; Especially when Gygax has probably contradicted that quote somewhere else.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Oni, post: 5041958, member: 380"] Most heated? Surely that goes to 4e, it seems like that edition sent a small segment of people (both for and against) right off the deep end into crazy land. However I don't believe your observation is without merit, though I don't think it is limited to 1e in general. The scripture like treatment of older gaming text in the old school community is definitely there, and to me is weird and off putting in its own way. For instance I read Grognardia fairly regularly and I think there is so much good stuff there, but every time James Maliszewski refers to the "Old Ways" in religious like tones I cringe inside because it just feeds the worst aspects of the OSR community. I have a real love/hate relationship with the OSR community, the games themselves I think are fascinating, and there is a lot of interesting and intelligent thought and game theory to discover in that quarter. However a notable and vocal segment of that community is so insular, elitist, condescending, and close minded that it just kills my enthusiasm sometimes. Also quoting Gygax does not automatically make your approach right, the only one, or unassailable. Especially when Gygax has probably contradicted that quote somewhere else. [/QUOTE]

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