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Message: <blockquote data-quote="wingsandsword" data-source="post: 7967097" data-attributes="member: 14159">I usually go with circa 1372.  I liked the changes for 3e Realms.  The Thayan Enclaves provided a good explanation for the magic item economy, the appearance of the Shadovar gave a way to work in Netherese characters and lore into games, and it generally works well for me.I outright reject the Spellplague.  Won't happen, never happens in my campaigns.  I can pull out the Grand History of the Realms and go up to 1383 without a problem.   Tyr killing Helm seemed like just more 4e grimdark so I couldn't accept that from 1384, so I could say I could accept the official timeline until some point in 1384 before then.</blockquote>