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<blockquote data-quote="The Little Raven" data-source="post: 5457014" data-attributes="member: 10095"><p>You're citing Greg Bilsland's personal blog, in which he discusses what he does in his private game, and saying that the developers think there is a feat tax because of that, right?</p><p></p><p>A few facts.</p><p></p><p>1. Greg Bilsland isn't a developer. Or a designer. He's an editor. He doesn't make design or development decisions. Any article he writes goes through the design/development guys for its mechanics. He edits things after other people make the decisions and do the design/development work.</p><p></p><p>2. This is his private game, where we've seen actual developers do things that 4e is pretty explicit about not doing, and yet the game hasn't been changed to make what they do in their private games part of the rules.</p><p></p><p>3. The designers and developers have showed no compunction about changing areas of the game they think needs work. As the supposed "feat taxes" have been around since 2009, you'd think they would have integrated it into the core math if they agreed with the premise, two years later. They haven't. In fact, changing it from an untyped bonus that stacks with everything to a feat bonus is a pretty strong indicator they don't consider it a tax, since it no longer stacks with all the other feat bonuses.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ah yes, another example of "On paper, in complete isolation from actual gameplay considerations, there is a discrepancy of up to 4 points at the end-game."</p><p></p><p>That may represent a PC swinging at a monster in a blank 10' room with no allies or tactical considerations accurately, but that's not how people actually play the game. There are plenty of powers, feats, and non-enhancement magic item bonuses at level 30 to easily overcome a 4 point discrepancy.</p><p></p><p>This so-called analysis you linked is incredibly lacking, particularly when the guy who posted it points out himself that he doesn't include two major elements of a Level 30 character: Paragon Paths and Epic Destinies (most of which will be granting you a +2 bonus to two different ability scores).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Little Raven, post: 5457014, member: 10095"] You're citing Greg Bilsland's personal blog, in which he discusses what he does in his private game, and saying that the developers think there is a feat tax because of that, right? A few facts. 1. Greg Bilsland isn't a developer. Or a designer. He's an editor. He doesn't make design or development decisions. Any article he writes goes through the design/development guys for its mechanics. He edits things after other people make the decisions and do the design/development work. 2. This is his private game, where we've seen actual developers do things that 4e is pretty explicit about not doing, and yet the game hasn't been changed to make what they do in their private games part of the rules. 3. The designers and developers have showed no compunction about changing areas of the game they think needs work. As the supposed "feat taxes" have been around since 2009, you'd think they would have integrated it into the core math if they agreed with the premise, two years later. They haven't. In fact, changing it from an untyped bonus that stacks with everything to a feat bonus is a pretty strong indicator they don't consider it a tax, since it no longer stacks with all the other feat bonuses. Ah yes, another example of "On paper, in complete isolation from actual gameplay considerations, there is a discrepancy of up to 4 points at the end-game." That may represent a PC swinging at a monster in a blank 10' room with no allies or tactical considerations accurately, but that's not how people actually play the game. There are plenty of powers, feats, and non-enhancement magic item bonuses at level 30 to easily overcome a 4 point discrepancy. This so-called analysis you linked is incredibly lacking, particularly when the guy who posted it points out himself that he doesn't include two major elements of a Level 30 character: Paragon Paths and Epic Destinies (most of which will be granting you a +2 bonus to two different ability scores). [/QUOTE]
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