Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
Which feats are "feat tax"?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Aulirophile" data-source="post: 5457131" data-attributes="member: 86312"><p>Facts?</p><p></p><p>1. Nearly every 4e developer gives out Expertise in their home games, or did pre-essentials. Barring games played specifically for play-testing purposes. You can dig up this info from developer posts on Enworld, the official forums, podcasts, and twitters. A single developer's game is one thing, but nearly all of them? No, it is clear what they think of it.</p><p></p><p>2. When the PHB2 came out they explicitly said they made expertise a feat, even though they thought it was a "math fix", because they wanted everyone to have equal access to it (as opposed to errata'ing the level up chart). Specifically, people mentioned the strange math discrepancy and WoTC's response was "We're aware of the issue, there will be a fix in the PHB2." Which invalidates point #3 of yours, while they have made decisions to relatively small elements, they've never errata'd something as huge as the level up chart. They stuck with their reasoning that it should be a feat, and expanded upon this with the Essentials Expertise feats that make them more interesting. </p><p></p><p>3. You are wrong about Greg, since he wrote a fair amount of the rules updates. </p><p></p><p>4. Most of the "Feat Bonus" to hits that are not Expertise have been errata'd to be untyped and reduced to +1, so they are still useful. Now they are nice bonuses you can take in addition to the feat the developers consider mandatory, Expertise.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Aulirophile, post: 5457131, member: 86312"] Facts? 1. Nearly every 4e developer gives out Expertise in their home games, or did pre-essentials. Barring games played specifically for play-testing purposes. You can dig up this info from developer posts on Enworld, the official forums, podcasts, and twitters. A single developer's game is one thing, but nearly all of them? No, it is clear what they think of it. 2. When the PHB2 came out they explicitly said they made expertise a feat, even though they thought it was a "math fix", because they wanted everyone to have equal access to it (as opposed to errata'ing the level up chart). Specifically, people mentioned the strange math discrepancy and WoTC's response was "We're aware of the issue, there will be a fix in the PHB2." Which invalidates point #3 of yours, while they have made decisions to relatively small elements, they've never errata'd something as huge as the level up chart. They stuck with their reasoning that it should be a feat, and expanded upon this with the Essentials Expertise feats that make them more interesting. 3. You are wrong about Greg, since he wrote a fair amount of the rules updates. 4. Most of the "Feat Bonus" to hits that are not Expertise have been errata'd to be untyped and reduced to +1, so they are still useful. Now they are nice bonuses you can take in addition to the feat the developers consider mandatory, Expertise. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
Which feats are "feat tax"?
Top