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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 4973365" data-attributes="member: 67338">really I thought PCs didn't compet with eachother at all, but against static monster defences...Really what if (more then once in real games I have seen this) thw leader is all about granting bonuses and extra attacks, he doesn't need the feat himself as much as other feats that add more to that subset, and if the rest of the party is hitting often, then why improve something you don't need to?In the on again off again mod game I run (Started the week phb1 came out) we are running each mod h1-e3 as the come (just about to start epic) and we have a warlod/Battle captian that gives bonuses to hit out like crazy...infact I have often had the fighter and rouge sit there and go 'not a 1, not a 1, not a 1' for there attacks.  we all laugh at the avenger player (he started with a 20 wis, has expertise, and a +3 prof weapon, he always goes for combat advantage) becuse several times he has gotten himself to where he needs to roll negative numbers to hit...yet he still obsessies about his rolls)He has a 26 wis, he has a magic item that gives +1 to hit with psycic attacks, and a great sword that does psi damage, he has expertise, so even base he has a + 30 to hit. avrage monsters have AC level +14 so a level 20 monster he needs to roll a 4...then keep in mind +2 CA, +2 first round or suprise round, +7 (4 from warlord 3 from action surge) if he action points, and more if the battle captian heals him, or has a buff power going...One fight last month had him complain about not having combat advantage (a PC chose not to flank for him) and he 'only' had +45 Vs AC...by the way the target was from P3 a magot lich with a 35 AC... he needed to roll a -10 on 2d20 take the highest...</blockquote>

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