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<blockquote data-quote="Henry" data-source="post: 6673551" data-attributes="member: 158">Actually, the stun/wound/mortal part of the system was my favorite part - unlike D&amp;D, you could take a wound that was going to kill you in five minutes, but still had you able to fight for a few precious seconds to either make a last stand or get to safety. Pathfinder's bleed damage does something similar, but it's too easy to stop or avoid, but with mortal damage you didn't have blow through someone's &quot;normal&quot; damage track to get to the mortal damage, nor did a mortal wound give you penalties so severe you were useless. In my opinion they solved Ryan Dancey's &quot;hit points suck&quot; argument without doing away with hit points.For me, i did go back to Alternity a short while after 3e, but the hardest thing was the init system -trying to go back to a &quot;roll every round&quot; system was sheer torture after 3e. For the life of me the whole table kept forgetting to reroll init! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Henry, post: 6673551, member: 158"] Actually, the stun/wound/mortal part of the system was my favorite part - unlike D&D, you could take a wound that was going to kill you in five minutes, but still had you able to fight for a few precious seconds to either make a last stand or get to safety. Pathfinder's bleed damage does something similar, but it's too easy to stop or avoid, but with mortal damage you didn't have blow through someone's "normal" damage track to get to the mortal damage, nor did a mortal wound give you penalties so severe you were useless. In my opinion they solved Ryan Dancey's "hit points suck" argument without doing away with hit points. For me, i did go back to Alternity a short while after 3e, but the hardest thing was the init system -trying to go back to a "roll every round" system was sheer torture after 3e. For the life of me the whole table kept forgetting to reroll init! :) [/QUOTE]

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