Reply to thread

Message: <blockquote data-quote="Orius" data-source="post: 9391079" data-attributes="member: 8863">Honestly, both Greyhawk and the Realms both have similar ideal starting points, either classic 1e or early 3e.  For the Realms that's Grey Box or FRCS.Greyhawk isn't any different, really.  The two best starting points would be either the Folio or the Box, or the Living Greyhawk Gazetteer.  The 1e material is fine if one doesn't want to mess with the Greyhawk Wars, however if a group hasn't played in Greyhawk before the Wars shouldn't be a serious issue.  The biggest problem with the Wars is that it trashed large chunks of the setting.  If you weren't playing around the City of Greyhawk itself and the Wild Coast, the Wars probably chewed up your corner of the Flanaess.  No wonder the old fans weren't happy, even at best the post Wars Greyhawk would have still had serious issues with the aftermath and new material would have been harder to adapt.  I like the late 2e reboot myself.  I've never run Greyhawk so the Wars aren't a problem.  The worst elements were dialed back, leaving some decent adventure hooks in place, and there's potential there for the setting to enter a new age of growth and prosperity. However, even the LGG should be supplemented by the Folio just for the excellent Darlene map.   If one wants to do a darker take on the setting, the From the Ashes box might be suitable as a start instead.</blockquote>