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<blockquote data-quote="JamesonCourage" data-source="post: 5988652" data-attributes="member: 6668292">I know it's only one facet of your post, but your unsupported (and probably unsupportable) use of &quot;objectively better&quot; makes me question the logic of a big section of your post. I'll admit that 4e fans are very important to the success of 5e (I just XP'd thecasualoblivion today when he was making the same point), but that doesn't make the rest of your post correct.This just comes off as another edition war post to me. I don't know if it was intended that way (and it probably wasn't), but I'm getting that feeling from you quite a bit recently (the &quot;AD&amp;D wasn't good&quot; thread, with the &quot;looking backwards&quot; line in the title; or the tone of some posts in &quot;convincing 4e players to consider 5e&quot; thread). That might be unfair, but I'm saying how it's coming across to me.As I've said, I like balance as a goal. And, I think catering to 4e players is important for the success of 5e. But this post just says &quot;edition war&quot; to me. It's no wonder people are saying &quot;it's like 2008 all over again&quot; (not that the &quot;4e doesn't deserve to be catered to&quot; or &quot;4e was a failure&quot; or &quot;4e wasn't D&amp;D&quot; posts that are more frequent nowadays are any better). As always, play what you like <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="JamesonCourage, post: 5988652, member: 6668292"] I know it's only one facet of your post, but your unsupported (and probably unsupportable) use of "objectively better" makes me question the logic of a big section of your post. I'll admit that 4e fans are very important to the success of 5e (I just XP'd thecasualoblivion today when he was making the same point), but that doesn't make the rest of your post correct. This just comes off as another edition war post to me. I don't know if it was intended that way (and it probably wasn't), but I'm getting that feeling from you quite a bit recently (the "AD&D wasn't good" thread, with the "looking backwards" line in the title; or the tone of some posts in "convincing 4e players to consider 5e" thread). That might be unfair, but I'm saying how it's coming across to me. As I've said, I like balance as a goal. And, I think catering to 4e players is important for the success of 5e. But this post just says "edition war" to me. It's no wonder people are saying "it's like 2008 all over again" (not that the "4e doesn't deserve to be catered to" or "4e was a failure" or "4e wasn't D&D" posts that are more frequent nowadays are any better). As always, play what you like :) [/QUOTE]

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