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<blockquote data-quote="Ahnehnois" data-source="post: 5988686" data-attributes="member: 17106"><p>The point was to reflect not only the content of the original post, but the tone.</p><p></p><p>It's not clear to me which edition has the most players, but I think that if one considers 3.5 and PF together, it is likely certainly the largest group of people by a wide margin (and, given Paizo's numbers, customers and subscribers). Dismissing them:would be foolish.</p><p></p><p>A new OGL game that improved on 3e's flaws would hit a rather large audience.</p><p></p><p>I think WotC is guessing that to be the case. I really don't know.</p><p></p><p>That said, I think this is true of most things. How many people research the nutrition facts of something before they eat it? The ENW crowd is a very knowledgeable group, but I suspect most gamers are not particularly discriminating consumers and don't put that much thought into what game they play or carefully consider alternatives, at least no more so than most people do when buying anything.</p><p></p><p> They're not blind followers, but I'm sure there are many people who simply play whatever is being offered at their game store/convention/etc. and simply buy whatever is in the big box retail stores. The average D&D player (any edition) probably does not seriously consider playing another rpg instead. D&D is still the only name brand in this hobby, whatever the sales figures are for Pathfinder.</p><p></p><p>Quite possibly, which is why 5e is a gamble. This certainly has happened already; not every 3.5 or PF player explicitly dislikes or avoids 4e, they just play what their DM comes up with. Paizo has been very effective with grassroots marketing and social networking.</p><p></p><p>The point I was getting at is that I think it would be far more difficult to sway those 4e activists to 5e than any other group, unless 5e were a 4e revision, in which case WotC would make no progress with any of the many other groups.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ahnehnois, post: 5988686, member: 17106"] The point was to reflect not only the content of the original post, but the tone. It's not clear to me which edition has the most players, but I think that if one considers 3.5 and PF together, it is likely certainly the largest group of people by a wide margin (and, given Paizo's numbers, customers and subscribers). Dismissing them:would be foolish. A new OGL game that improved on 3e's flaws would hit a rather large audience. I think WotC is guessing that to be the case. I really don't know. That said, I think this is true of most things. How many people research the nutrition facts of something before they eat it? The ENW crowd is a very knowledgeable group, but I suspect most gamers are not particularly discriminating consumers and don't put that much thought into what game they play or carefully consider alternatives, at least no more so than most people do when buying anything. They're not blind followers, but I'm sure there are many people who simply play whatever is being offered at their game store/convention/etc. and simply buy whatever is in the big box retail stores. The average D&D player (any edition) probably does not seriously consider playing another rpg instead. D&D is still the only name brand in this hobby, whatever the sales figures are for Pathfinder. Quite possibly, which is why 5e is a gamble. This certainly has happened already; not every 3.5 or PF player explicitly dislikes or avoids 4e, they just play what their DM comes up with. Paizo has been very effective with grassroots marketing and social networking. The point I was getting at is that I think it would be far more difficult to sway those 4e activists to 5e than any other group, unless 5e were a 4e revision, in which case WotC would make no progress with any of the many other groups. [/QUOTE]
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