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Message: <blockquote data-quote="UngeheuerLich" data-source="post: 5989388" data-attributes="member: 59057">I believe 4e fans will not be explicitely excluded, but they need to look harder what parts of their/our current favourite edition is brought to the game. There will be no shiny "powers". But the healing surge mechanic is in, balance seems to be taken into account. The fighter and rogue seem to be getting stuff that lets them also do cool things.An really a rogue with darkvision by default. Finally he can backstab and sneak around at night... (yeah, the 3e rogue had a hard time doing so, including pathfinder... 4e essentials at least introduced disciple of darkvision feat).There are 4e things. And if they would not include those things they would not only lose 4e fans, but also those fans, that want to get a better system than 3e. Something without its flaws, without deviating too much from D&D classic. 4e failed a little in that regard. But this does not mean, that it can´t be salvaged. I would still say, that 3e seems to have the least direct influence, as the best parts were retained in 4e or some good retroclones.</blockquote>