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Which is the better fantasy rpg and why: D&D 5e or Pathfinder 2e?
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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 7872418" data-attributes="member: 87792"><p>Honestly I find that one of my objections to D&D is how generic it <em>isn't</em>. With the highly specified riskless magic, the absurdly scaling hit point, the level and spell slot system, and so on the only type of fantasy I find most versions of D&D to support is either based on D&D or based on D&D at one remove - CRPGs/MMOs like World of Warcraft. If I want to reproduce almost any literary or even film settings Warhammer, the far grittier game with characters living in their setting, and magic that doesn't always work the same way I find fits far better. And this is Warhammer - a pretty specific system and setting. </p><p></p><p>5e has the benefit, however, of being generic and what everyone knows and plays.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This is arguably not so. 3.0 hit the reset after just two and a half years, to be replaced with 3.5 - and 4e lasted longer than 3.5. 4e also spammed out stuff to the point there were more official feats in 4e than 3.5. (Before you say "Essentials", there was a lot more both of reprinting and backwards compatibility breaking involved in 3.0 -> 3.5 than there was 4e -> 4eE)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The problem was that by that point you couldn't just pick up 2e in a couple of books and play it there - and also that things like THAC0 and kits were pretty arcane. Part of the reason fo rthe resets is this complexity creep.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>1e? You had 1e? Luxury! Back in the day we just had the brown box and we liked it!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 7872418, member: 87792"] Honestly I find that one of my objections to D&D is how generic it [I]isn't[/I]. With the highly specified riskless magic, the absurdly scaling hit point, the level and spell slot system, and so on the only type of fantasy I find most versions of D&D to support is either based on D&D or based on D&D at one remove - CRPGs/MMOs like World of Warcraft. If I want to reproduce almost any literary or even film settings Warhammer, the far grittier game with characters living in their setting, and magic that doesn't always work the same way I find fits far better. And this is Warhammer - a pretty specific system and setting. 5e has the benefit, however, of being generic and what everyone knows and plays. This is arguably not so. 3.0 hit the reset after just two and a half years, to be replaced with 3.5 - and 4e lasted longer than 3.5. 4e also spammed out stuff to the point there were more official feats in 4e than 3.5. (Before you say "Essentials", there was a lot more both of reprinting and backwards compatibility breaking involved in 3.0 -> 3.5 than there was 4e -> 4eE) The problem was that by that point you couldn't just pick up 2e in a couple of books and play it there - and also that things like THAC0 and kits were pretty arcane. Part of the reason fo rthe resets is this complexity creep. 1e? You had 1e? Luxury! Back in the day we just had the brown box and we liked it! [/QUOTE]
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