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Message: <blockquote data-quote="generic" data-source="post: 7876431" data-attributes="member: 6923088">This.  The problem which Paizo has repeatedly encountered is the fact their products pander more to established players looking for something different than to new players.  Heck, PF1 started out as "3E but better" (it grew to be so much more, of course).  PF2 was an attempt to step outside of D&D's shadow, IMO.  It is my opinion that any RPG that might topple D&D from its throne would have to be a game which does not rely on the SRD or OGL, or the d20 system.An amazing d12 or dice pool (d6 or d10) game might have success, or, at least, a chance, but, honestly, I don't see 5E going away any time soon.</blockquote>