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<blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 7877056" data-attributes="member: 957">Chill out man, you are over-reacting.OK, I clearly stated I was making up numbers.&nbsp; So I don't think it is a big deal.&nbsp; I completely accept 4 1/2 times.&nbsp; The point remains that there is a huge change in people who haven't played and still won't play.&nbsp; Talking over and over exclusively about insider points of view is blind to the bigger picture.As I said, people outside the bubble are frequntly talking about issues that predate 5E by decades.&nbsp; There is a long evolution here.&nbsp; 3X was so popular when it came out that people complained that it was stifling innovation.&nbsp; To much D20 was being published to the exclusion of anything else.&nbsp; If an explosion inside the bubble was going to change the world outside the bubble, then it would have happened then.&nbsp; But it didn't.&nbsp; And based on your numbers I'd guess that 5E is roughly 10X where 3E stood nearly 20 years ago.&nbsp; And the difference in changes happened outside the bubble.&nbsp; &nbsp; And then WotC made a great game that latched on to that with total excellence.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BryonD, post: 7877056, member: 957"] Chill out man, you are over-reacting. OK, I clearly stated I was making up numbers. So I don't think it is a big deal. I completely accept 4 1/2 times. The point remains that there is a huge change in people who haven't played and still won't play. Talking over and over exclusively about insider points of view is blind to the bigger picture. As I said, people outside the bubble are frequntly talking about issues that predate 5E by decades. There is a long evolution here. 3X was so popular when it came out that people complained that it was stifling innovation. To much D20 was being published to the exclusion of anything else. If an explosion inside the bubble was going to change the world outside the bubble, then it would have happened then. But it didn't. And based on your numbers I'd guess that 5E is roughly 10X where 3E stood nearly 20 years ago. And the difference in changes happened outside the bubble. And then WotC made a great game that latched on to that with total excellence. [/QUOTE]

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