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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 7877099" data-attributes="member: 18">I remember being a new player very well. That period continues for, oooh, maybe 12 months? 24 at the outside. And even within that period there are products that don't appeal to you. There was tons of AD&amp;D 1E/2E stuff I didn't want to touch with a bargepole when I started playing in 1989-ish. Other stuff was deeply disappointing - and that actually was problematic. I wasn't hugely interested in other RPGs until I bought some AD&amp;D stuff that was just kinda rubbish, I forget what. I'm not suggesting people will &quot;dump 5E&quot;, but weak or tepid material can certainly help dampen enthusiasm, even when you're new.So this idea that it's fine to do a poor job with new material because new players are uncritical and wide-eyed seems to me a rather facile and short-term-ist one. Someone who was &quot;brand-new&quot; 3-5 years ago (remember, 5E has been out since 2014) is definitely not the uncritical stars-in-the-eyes person you think they are.Also we live in the age of the internet, the greatest machine for turning people from wide-eyed and excited to embittered cynics since they banned military conscription, and trust me, you can go from &quot;I love this game and everything about it!&quot; to &quot;noveau grognard&quot; in under six months thanks to that there world wide web...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 7877099, member: 18"] I remember being a new player very well. That period continues for, oooh, maybe 12 months? 24 at the outside. And even within that period there are products that don't appeal to you. There was tons of AD&D 1E/2E stuff I didn't want to touch with a bargepole when I started playing in 1989-ish. Other stuff was deeply disappointing - and that actually was problematic. I wasn't hugely interested in other RPGs until I bought some AD&D stuff that was just kinda rubbish, I forget what. I'm not suggesting people will "dump 5E", but weak or tepid material can certainly help dampen enthusiasm, even when you're new. So this idea that it's fine to do a poor job with new material because new players are uncritical and wide-eyed seems to me a rather facile and short-term-ist one. Someone who was "brand-new" 3-5 years ago (remember, 5E has been out since 2014) is definitely not the uncritical stars-in-the-eyes person you think they are. Also we live in the age of the internet, the greatest machine for turning people from wide-eyed and excited to embittered cynics since they banned military conscription, and trust me, you can go from "I love this game and everything about it!" to "noveau grognard" in under six months thanks to that there world wide web... [/QUOTE]

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