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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AFGNCAAP" data-source="post: 3301019" data-attributes="member: 871">I think that, originally, both had their bonuses and limitations.  Sorcerers could cast more, but they were a step behind a wizard, and their limited selection can be a potential problem.However, the sorcerer is getting hit from many sides, IMHO:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Focused Specialist Caster Base Classes: Warmage.  Dread Necromancer.  Beguiler.  Spontaneous casters who know all the spells on their limited lists, and get other perks (like casting in armor, better Hit Die, etc.).  Sure, they may not get a familiar, but they're a better option for folks who want a specific concept in mind (beguiler = rogue/spontaneous casting illusionist; warmage = battle-focused armor-wearing sorcerer; etc.).</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Warlocks: While a sorcerer has more spells per day, the warlock never runs out of ammo.  Their abilities are more focused & limited than a sorcerer, but hey, they get to wear armor, too.  And have a nifty Hit Die.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Reserve Feats: Oh, this has got to hurt.  Sure, a sorcerer can take these, but with the ever-versatile wizard, it's a godsend.  It might not be much, but if a wizard gets 1 or 2 of these, then the more spells per day of the sorcerer doesn't have that much appeal anymore.  The wizard can prep spells he/she thinks may be necessary, and still possibily be a viable combatant by holding a decent spell in reserve to keep the feat going.  Sorcerers can do this too, but they don't have the option of being able to switch out their spells like a wizard can.</li> </ul>As it is, the Focused Specialist Caster Base Classes could grow & expand to make specialist wizards a not-so-hot option, as well, leaving generalist wizards the key to unlimited arcane spell selection.Sorcerer seems to benefit more from getting a PrC, &/or for use in a multiclassing concept (a Cleric/Sorcerer/Mystic Theurge augments the use of a cleric's Cha for turning undead & other related abilities).</blockquote>

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