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Message: <blockquote data-quote="overgeeked" data-source="post: 8586992" data-attributes="member: 86653">This is more than a bit exaggerated. Yes, quadratic wizards were a thing, but only if the DM let it happen. The power of wizards was kept in check by low hit points, hit point caps, terrible AC, fire and forget spells, spells spoiling on a hit, rolling to learn spells, and DM-fiat to even get spells. So if a DM had a quadratic wizard to contend with, it was mostly the DM's mistakes that put them in that position. While 5E wizards are tamped down ever so slightly with concentration, the wizard simply gets to pick whatever spells they want to automatically learn, and has access to an infinite supply of damaging cantrips. A 10th-level AD&D wizard compared to a 10th-level 5E wizard...forget about it. The 5E wizard would destroy their AD&D counterpart. And let's not pretend that quadratic wizard, linear fighter isn't also present in 5E. It very much is. I mean, wish 1/day as an action vs 4 whole attacks per round. Yeah, it's still a thing.</blockquote>