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<blockquote data-quote="Volsung" data-source="post: 4071054" data-attributes="member: 11865"><p><em>Dominate</em> wouldn't stop him from using IHS to complete his given task. It would stop him from using IHS to end the <em>domination effect</em>, since, in all likelihood it would interfere with the last order he was given.</p><p></p><p>For Nail: [spoiler]It's really up to your player to explain to you how using IHS to end the <em>domination</em> effect would allow him to complete his given task, since by the wording of the spell that's all he's allowed to do. If he can complete the task as well or better without ending the spell, then it would still be a "no" to IHS, even if he comes up with a justification.[/spoiler]</p><p></p><p>Just think of it this way: Using IHS to end <em>dominate person/monster</em> is almost mechanically identical to casting a spell on yourself to end the same effect. They're both standard actions, they both require you to be able to move, and they both would allow you to not complete the orders given to exclusion of all else. So if you allow IHS, then you have to allow a <em>dominated</em> spellcaster to cast <em>protection from evil</em> on themself or <em>break enchantment</em>, or a targeted <em>dispel magic</em> on themself to end the spell.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Volsung, post: 4071054, member: 11865"] [i]Dominate[/i] wouldn't stop him from using IHS to complete his given task. It would stop him from using IHS to end the [i]domination effect[/i], since, in all likelihood it would interfere with the last order he was given. For Nail: [spoiler]It's really up to your player to explain to you how using IHS to end the [i]domination[/i] effect would allow him to complete his given task, since by the wording of the spell that's all he's allowed to do. If he can complete the task as well or better without ending the spell, then it would still be a "no" to IHS, even if he comes up with a justification.[/spoiler] Just think of it this way: Using IHS to end [i]dominate person/monster[/i] is almost mechanically identical to casting a spell on yourself to end the same effect. They're both standard actions, they both require you to be able to move, and they both would allow you to not complete the orders given to exclusion of all else. So if you allow IHS, then you have to allow a [i]dominated[/i] spellcaster to cast [i]protection from evil[/i] on themself or [i]break enchantment[/i], or a targeted [i]dispel magic[/i] on themself to end the spell. [/QUOTE]
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