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<blockquote data-quote="Voadam" data-source="post: 9106791" data-attributes="member: 2209">I did this in 1e for a while, but I eventually came to the conclusion that it was basically incoherent because most ACs do not represent a specific armor or a specific armor with a shield but two different situations, a set of armor with no shield and a different set of armor with a shield. Studded leather (and ring mail) with shield and scale mail with no shield are the same AC 6 for example, so the charts do not show effectiveness versus shields or not, or versus specific armor types, but sort of both but not in ways you can really parse. It all seems fairly arbitrary with a lot of extra figuring in the middle of a combat that you want to keep going swiftly for pacing purposes.I eventually dropped using it in 1e.When 2e came around with slashing, piercing, bludgeoning versus different armors that seemed much more manageable and conceptually coherent compared to 1e's AC chart.I still concluded that in effect it was not something as a DM I wanted to sweat in the middle of combat.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Voadam, post: 9106791, member: 2209"] I did this in 1e for a while, but I eventually came to the conclusion that it was basically incoherent because most ACs do not represent a specific armor or a specific armor with a shield but two different situations, a set of armor with no shield [B]and[/B] a different set of armor with a shield. Studded leather (and ring mail) with shield and scale mail with no shield are the same AC 6 for example, so the charts do not show effectiveness versus shields or not, or versus specific armor types, but sort of both but not in ways you can really parse. It all seems fairly arbitrary with a lot of extra figuring in the middle of a combat that you want to keep going swiftly for pacing purposes. I eventually dropped using it in 1e. When 2e came around with slashing, piercing, bludgeoning versus different armors that seemed much more manageable and conceptually coherent compared to 1e's AC chart. I still concluded that in effect it was not something as a DM I wanted to sweat in the middle of combat. [/QUOTE]

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