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<blockquote data-quote="Caliburn101" data-source="post: 7269680" data-attributes="member: 6802178"><p>Good lord, you'd think people would know LoTR was a book before it was a movie - especially people who pride themselves on the incisiveness of their Google enshrined research! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>I guess what makes me laugh and shake my head the most about all this ridiculous storm in a teacup is that it would probably tickle Gary no end to think that his every word and relationship, his acts and actions about nothing more than a game would in future be dissected and put under such scrutiny to the point that should he have been so inclined, he could probably have stated his own cult!</p><p></p><p>He reportedly said he just wanted to be remembered as the guy who loved games (or words that that effect - if you want the precise quote - GOOGLE IT).</p><p></p><p>I think I can confirm without too much controversy that the energy and enthusiasm with which he spoke about it with me underline that statement, so even though that is one of the many statements he made according to someone else on the internet, I can believe it of him.</p><p></p><p>I was once an archaeologist. I say that because something which is taught in that scientific discipline are techniques for the avoidance of cultural confirmation bias, and rushing too quickly to simplify something found - "you should only put the finds in a box... not what you think about them" was a phrase I remember being taught at university when I studied it.</p><p></p><p>I read what you have stated Parmandur, and it occurs to me that there is a lot of a version of this very mistake being made on these forums by some of the more strident respondents. It is entirely likely that 'Arneson having created turning' and 'Gary didn't like it' is entirely consistent with the idea of it mirroring the Bombadil scene. One should think about how unique things still come about around the table when creative minds get together.</p><p></p><p>It's a group-think situation, and Gary was probably telling me about his input, or indeed someone elses that had been memorable for him.</p><p></p><p>Who knows?</p><p></p><p>Hell, if I had thought I be being accused of making it all up decades later I'd have asked him for a signed statement! lol</p><p></p><p>We do waste our time on trivia eh...?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Caliburn101, post: 7269680, member: 6802178"] Good lord, you'd think people would know LoTR was a book before it was a movie - especially people who pride themselves on the incisiveness of their Google enshrined research! :) I guess what makes me laugh and shake my head the most about all this ridiculous storm in a teacup is that it would probably tickle Gary no end to think that his every word and relationship, his acts and actions about nothing more than a game would in future be dissected and put under such scrutiny to the point that should he have been so inclined, he could probably have stated his own cult! He reportedly said he just wanted to be remembered as the guy who loved games (or words that that effect - if you want the precise quote - GOOGLE IT). I think I can confirm without too much controversy that the energy and enthusiasm with which he spoke about it with me underline that statement, so even though that is one of the many statements he made according to someone else on the internet, I can believe it of him. I was once an archaeologist. I say that because something which is taught in that scientific discipline are techniques for the avoidance of cultural confirmation bias, and rushing too quickly to simplify something found - "you should only put the finds in a box... not what you think about them" was a phrase I remember being taught at university when I studied it. I read what you have stated Parmandur, and it occurs to me that there is a lot of a version of this very mistake being made on these forums by some of the more strident respondents. It is entirely likely that 'Arneson having created turning' and 'Gary didn't like it' is entirely consistent with the idea of it mirroring the Bombadil scene. One should think about how unique things still come about around the table when creative minds get together. It's a group-think situation, and Gary was probably telling me about his input, or indeed someone elses that had been memorable for him. Who knows? Hell, if I had thought I be being accused of making it all up decades later I'd have asked him for a signed statement! lol We do waste our time on trivia eh...? [/QUOTE]
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