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Message: <blockquote data-quote="painandgreed" data-source="post: 2294104" data-attributes="member: 24969">Horizon Walker is the only one that really wouldn't fit into a campaign in my homebrew. I'd have to rename the Red Wizards or something. The rest are typically regional or secret societies that are hard to join and seek to give that region flavor. For example, the secrets of Shadowdancers are only known to the females of a particular ethnic group far to the west. If a player wasn't female or from that ethnic group (let alone on that side of the continent), it would take a hell of a lot of role playing to ever become one.Some are allowed to PCs that plan to go that way from the begining such as the Dragon Disciple. If you write up how your character is suspictious of being fathered by a dragon in the history and play it that way from the beginging, I'd probalby allow it but not if at 6th level you decide you want to be one for the special abilities. I did this once but wasn't allowed to do it so I feel shorted and wouldn't want to do that to another PC. Why did the DM not allow that PrCl? He thought the artwork for it was too dorky and to allow one would constantly remind him of the bad artwork. I really couldn't argue.</blockquote>