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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DungeonMaster" data-source="post: 2305467" data-attributes="member: 27431">Except you don't need the wizard or the cleric then? They can use their abilities and resources for other things? That's even assuming you have either in your party at the ready when you actually need the abilities . Which is of course complete and utter crap. A wizard in the jaws of a behir has better things to do than cast invisibility on you no matter how good it would make your next attack. The "you've gained all these abilities but really they're useless" argument is um, lacking, tremendously. If you have more abilities -> you have more abilities. And certainly more than a plain frigging rogue. Like? Just for fun. Post the write-up of an "I'm an elf so I win!" kit. Just for frigging laughs. Er.. no. The assumption you're making is all options are equal - and they aren't. That's the whole crux of the matter - the prestige class option is better than the other options, 95% of the time.That's this whole "balance" concept? The four quarters analogy fails utterly because Prestige class give more than they take - plain and simple. And you can take multiple ones, unlike kits. The price of flexibility is something you've utterly failed to take into account and flexibility is power - real power.</blockquote>