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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Storm Raven" data-source="post: 2305550" data-attributes="member: 307">In general, the XP hit from crafting is small enough that it will never make a difference to total character level. And it will never make a whit of difference to the cohort (that would be the RtFM part). Perhaps if you knew the rules you are arguing about, you might be able to come up with a cogent argument.Plus, the cohort has a whole array of feat slots he can use, to take item crafting feats so the single classed caster and cohort can craft a wider array of items than the single classed caster, meaning you can get the crafting discount in cash on a more significant  number of your items.It sounds like you have dumb players, who don't know how to deal with their opponents effectively.And the cohort crafts a cloak +4, and it effectively doesn't cost him any experience points. And given that the single MT character, at say, 12th level, has 4 feats to spend, while the single classed wizard character plus his cleric cohort has a a combined 7 feats (less one for Leadership), plus two more wizard bonus feats the MT doesn't have, the single classed character and his cohort have access to a greater variety of item crafting feats. The MT may not even have enough feat slots available to take Craft Wondrous Item and be able to craft the cloak to begin with. he certainly won't have that plus Craft Wand, Craft Staff, Craft Magic Arms and Armor, and Brew Potion.It might be, if your grasp of the rules wasn't so pathetic.And now, you, the MT, have 1 5th level wizard spell, and 1+1 5th level cleric spells. Your single classed wizard friend, however, has 2 6th level spells, and 3 5th level spells.Your MT cohort has 1 4th level wizard spell, and 1+1 4th level cleric spells. The wizard's single classed clerical cohort has 2+1 5th level spells, and 3+1 4th level spells.You cap out at 5th level. The wizard and his cohort have 1 more 5th level clerical spell than you, and 2 more 5th level wizard spells. Plus they have 2 6th level spells. How is it that being able to cast 3 fewer 5th level spells and 2 fewer 6th level spells makes your argument make any more sense than it has so far?You just don't understand how weak your "argument" (to dignify the stream of nonsense words that are coming from your keyboard) actually is when you stack it up against reality.</blockquote>

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